tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post7418105197494531563..comments2024-03-27T17:53:10.159-04:00Comments on Mondesi's House: ABOUT THIS LASTINGS MILLEDGE CHARACTERmondesishousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16196483886553780303noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-71323002696478994972009-07-01T16:17:16.148-04:002009-07-01T16:17:16.148-04:00i agree with dave. huntington is far better than l...i agree with dave. huntington is far better than littlefield. and if littlefield didnt set the team back an additional 3 years while he was in office, perhaps some of our key guys would be with us still. <br /><br />the reason why the team has stunk for so long is ownership and managers. sure the players had a lot to do with it too, but the ultimate blame goes to the higher ups. people forget that ramierez, schmidt, loaiza, and others were average at best while with the pirates. then they go other teams with better coaching staffs and their in mvp discussions, all-star games, & winning cy youngs. people loved mac because he took a base out of the ground, but the guy wasnt a good big league manager. jim tracy had a good year in LA, and is over achieving in colorado (theyll cool down in 2 weeks). russell isnt a familiar name but i have a feeling he's a good fit. same with huntington. the worst word in pirates baseball is "patience" but sad to say thats what we need right now. and this time i think it will actually pay off.Jeff_King_Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13359850363840690509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-12745476523907475342009-07-01T15:42:01.602-04:002009-07-01T15:42:01.602-04:00I don't get the hate everyone has for Huntingt...I don't get the hate everyone has for Huntington. He's been on the job since 2007, less than 2 years. It's not like he walked into a job like LA or Boston. He had a terrible team with a worse farm system and has to somehow turn the few assets he has into not only a strong product at the Major League level, but also throughout the organization.<br /><br />I'm no appologist, I'm just calling it like I see it. When you have lost 17+ seasons in a row, rarely have anything more than the single league-mandated All-Star Game representative, and must compete locally with a Super Bowl winner and a Stanley Cup champion, nobody is untouchable.<br /><br />Milledge has a ton of talent, but a bit of an attitude problem. It's better than NO talent and an attitude problem <i>coughAdamLaRochecough</i>.<br /><br />As they say, Rome wasn't built in a day. Some of the moves have paid off, e.g. swapping Nady for Ohlendorf, and many have not. You cannot seriously tell me though that this team is not in a better position now than before Huntington took over.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13790238189270096864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-88699062090147644152009-07-01T13:10:09.593-04:002009-07-01T13:10:09.593-04:00However, I would like to take a position to the co...However, I would like to take a position to the contrary regarding the comment on Don drinking the Kool-Aid. He doesn't have the luxury of anonimity like a lot of us who post on here. He has his name out there and I would imagine he wouldn't want to have any inflammatory comments pegged to him considering he may at times get chances to interview people in the Pirates' "organization". <br /><br />Some of us have different ways of dealing with the persistent losing.BurressWithButterflywingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466557816631165674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-85060591468103724932009-07-01T12:50:39.393-04:002009-07-01T12:50:39.393-04:00Well apparently people think that Lastings Milledg...Well apparently people think that Lastings Milledge is some kind of gold mine. From what I gather, he has a lot of similarities to one Ian Dante Snell Oquendo! BAD ATTITUDE!<br /><br />That is not what the Pirates need right now, but since their list of needs is infinite who in the hell knows what they are trying to accomplish? <br /><br />I stick by my idea that the Front Office plants commenters on the PBC Blog to try and talk up the players they got. There was someone on there yesterday trying to use some kind of ridiculous stats to rationalize Hanrahan's 7 ERA. Something comparable to: Leads the team in ninth inning doubles in the month of August.BurressWithButterflywingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466557816631165674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-63917058480067017472009-07-01T12:32:35.219-04:002009-07-01T12:32:35.219-04:00Oh yeah...
"but you can't overlook the f...Oh yeah...<br /><br />"but you can't overlook the fact that A) he couldn't get on base nearly enough, and B) he's been thrown out 10 times in 28 stolen base attempts this season"<br /><br />Extracted from a PG:<br /><br />"So Monday night, Morgan went 3 for 4 in the opener of this series.<br /><br />That made him second on the team in hits, second in walks, third in runs scored, third best in the league in stolen bases"<br /><br />http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09182/980960-150.stm<br /><br />Peak value? Yes. Worth trading at this absolute moment for garbage? That would be an emphatic no.<br /><br />Believe me, I know he wasn't an All-Star and never would be. But you have to give fans something to cheer for rather than scudding the season in two weeks by trading everyone on the diamond.<br /><br />As sad as it is to say this, .500 baseball means a lot to fans under the age of 30 who have to think really really hard about the late 80's and early 90's when the Bucco's were competitive.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398730565539003329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-54329102596332835322009-07-01T12:26:33.632-04:002009-07-01T12:26:33.632-04:00All I am going to say is locker room cancer... we&...All I am going to say is locker room cancer... we'll see how long this 'experiment' lasts. How long is this guy signed through? <br /><br />Oh great, he'll be a FA at the end of the season.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398730565539003329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-551007477032223742009-07-01T12:14:22.018-04:002009-07-01T12:14:22.018-04:00well said Chip! i think don's assessment of s...well said Chip! i think don's assessment of sports in pittsburgh is great except when it comes to the pirates...maybe the pirates marketing team is putting kool aid in his water??Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17325780083717650209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-29330845315067946652009-07-01T11:31:53.777-04:002009-07-01T11:31:53.777-04:00See, I guess I interpreted Jack's comments dif...See, I guess I interpreted Jack's comments differently. He wasn't saying his teammates were worthless. He was saying this notion that we have some players, they lose, so we trade them for new players, they lose, so we trade them for new players, etc etc... NEVER WORKS.<br /><br />We had Giles and lost so we swapped him for Bay. That didn't work so we swapped him for Wimpy LaRoche and Mr. One HR. So they're still not happy and swap Nate and Nyjer, etc.<br /><br />At what point do you say "This is the group we're building around" and then try to ADD to the CORE?? They said Nate was a core guy and then turned around and traded him away.<br /><br />Honestly, having faith in these lying weasels running the team blows my mind. We have the Detroit Lions of baseball in our city and yet bloggers CONTINUE to support their idiotic moves. I guess that's why they continue to get away with it. Nobody holds their feet to the fire like they should. Sad really.Chiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455500623143287689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-57943193619356708022009-07-01T11:13:21.426-04:002009-07-01T11:13:21.426-04:0017 and counting is what I named my yahoo fantasy l...17 and counting is what I named my yahoo fantasy league.<br /><br />Don,<br />I think I missed your point in initially reading that statement. Wilson is dead on with his assessment IMHO. You bring up a great point in regards to 6 games out of first and in dead last!BurressWithButterflywingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466557816631165674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-52599455813625367622009-07-01T10:30:25.631-04:002009-07-01T10:30:25.631-04:00Well, the Buccos PR machine is at it hard this wee...Well, the Buccos PR machine is at it hard this week. I am guessing they are trying to steal the spotlight from the Pens. They are making the headlines, well the 8th or 9th headline on ESPN and MSNBC, with their "trades" and the boys from India <a href="" rel="nofollow">http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/31672555/ns/sports-baseball/"</a><br /><br />I think they are gunning for a reality show. I can hear it now, "17 years and counting, they are the loveable losers from the City of Champions...see what kind of crazy hyjinx goes on behind the scenes of the not-so Jolly Roger."<br /><br />This stuff writes itself.okel dokelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13034193951055275779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-86861797561086667472009-07-01T09:47:07.973-04:002009-07-01T09:47:07.973-04:00Chip and Burress:
I'm not saying I love guys ...Chip and Burress:<br /><br />I'm not saying I love guys like Adam LaRoche. In fact, I can't wait until he's dealt. I was merely pointing out the massive hypocrisy in what Wilson said. On one hand, he's saying the Pirates are only 5 games out. On the other hand, he's saying trades never work. But the guys that are 5 games out are mostly guys that they traded for. Unless I'm missing something.<br /><br />Jack also left out the fact that while they are 5 games out (now 6, by the way), they're also in last place.mondesishousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16196483886553780303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-79361531463487445572009-07-01T09:15:43.865-04:002009-07-01T09:15:43.865-04:00At last, William Gay has a running buddy. I am pr...At last, William Gay has a running buddy. I am predicting that many local clubs can expect a "rainy" forecast for the next few months.Dallas Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11729900655652634679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-38162023938516592662009-07-01T09:03:11.814-04:002009-07-01T09:03:11.814-04:00garbage in, garbage outgarbage in, garbage outthe nigerian nightmarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14340933813663075507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-63194103460556711102009-07-01T09:01:38.261-04:002009-07-01T09:01:38.261-04:00sounds like jack wilson wants to win and is spot o...sounds like jack wilson wants to win and is spot on with his commentsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17325780083717650209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-49766442356231765482009-07-01T08:47:56.842-04:002009-07-01T08:47:56.842-04:00I agree with Chip,
Jaramillo is viable but we tra...I agree with Chip,<br /><br />Jaramillo is viable but we traded <br />Ronny Paulino to get him so that wasn't exactly mortgaging the future. <br /><br />Otherwise, The LaRoche brothers and Brandon Moss have disappointed me. May I point out that J-Bay's home run and RBI numbers are better than Moss and Andy Laroche combined! So please tell me how that trade "worked"? <br /><br />I don't even think I need to point out all of the disappointment in Adam Laroche, who was supposed to launch HR's with regularity with the short RF yet he will never break 30 with the Rats.BurressWithButterflywingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466557816631165674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-1845904948014837532009-07-01T08:43:45.003-04:002009-07-01T08:43:45.003-04:00@chip- i dont think you understood his point there...@chip- i dont think you understood his point there. he was NOT saying that those trades "worked", he was saying that jack wilson alienated his teammates...Wilson said. "And over the years, these trades haven't worked. Show me the ones that have worked.".... the trades that jack is referring to brought in his current teammates. and jack is the one who is delusional enough to think that this current team is good enough.pens fan in phillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06925729567621843793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-92151259425687291402009-07-01T05:38:07.238-04:002009-07-01T05:38:07.238-04:00I was enjoying this post until I got to this part:...I was enjoying this post until I got to this part:<br /><br /><i>many of his very teammates (the Brothers LaRoche, Freddy Sanchez, Delwyn Young, Brandon Moss, Jason Jaramillo, etc.) were acquired via these trades that "haven't worked".</i><br /><br />Clearly you either don't watch the Pirates or know nothing about baseball. Holding those up as "trades that worked" is ridiculous.<br /><br />Adam LaRoche is a mediocre 1st baseman. <br /><br />Andy LaRoche is below average both offensively and defensively at 3B. <br /><br />Jaramillo is a backup C.<br /><br />Moss has 1 HR and 20 RBI. ONE HOME RUN from your RF? He's a backup.<br /><br />Neal Huntington is a the Matt Millen of MLB. He's an idiot who trades proven ML players for AA "prospects" or fringe major leaguers that other teams have given up on. <br /><br />Until he's fired, this team will continue finishing under .500 and be the laughing stock of baseball.Chiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455500623143287689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-11492781943762247622009-07-01T03:55:30.330-04:002009-07-01T03:55:30.330-04:00Okay everyone, leap of faith time. What if I said...Okay everyone, leap of faith time. What if I said the Pirates reacquired Nate McLouth, only during his time with Atlanta he went from being 28 to being 24, and now he's kind of a dick. Oh, and he's black now. Well that's kind of what this trade is.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01983390709241892764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-83083563147184259942009-07-01T02:00:13.081-04:002009-07-01T02:00:13.081-04:00I agree very much with your assessment. Check out...I agree very much with your assessment. Check out my take on the trade at www.theunsportsmanlikes.comDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18380512676781473411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-82315853328211761942009-07-01T00:15:54.484-04:002009-07-01T00:15:54.484-04:00I'm just waiting for Milledge and "Big Pl...I'm just waiting for Milledge and "Big Play Willie Gay" to record together.BURGH08https://www.blogger.com/profile/04977580975300029584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-64020448604403029102009-06-30T23:31:46.864-04:002009-06-30T23:31:46.864-04:00The instant, knee-jerk reaction to this trade was ...The instant, knee-jerk reaction to this trade was stunning and astounding. It's Nyjer Morgan, for pete's sake. Not Jason Bay or even Nate McLouth.<br /><br />More than anything, that's the problem with Pirates fans right now. The faint whiff of mediocrity hits and every player is suddenly an unmovable all-star. We needed some kind of power in the outfield, Milledge will provide it. Let's not go crazy and make Morgan a hall of famer in our instant hatred of all moves Pirates.<br /><br />Honestly, I'd rather trading guys like Morgan, Hinske and even McLouth than signing guys like Pat Meares, Derek Bell and late 90s Kevin Young.Badstreethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11365073470321153970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-7820909269782585292009-06-30T23:30:48.022-04:002009-06-30T23:30:48.022-04:00Anybody who looks cool wearing a Pirates cap gets ...Anybody who looks cool wearing a Pirates cap gets traded. Nyjer should have taken a lesson from Pokey Reese. Don't be surprised if the Bucs try to trade Chuck D by the end of the season.AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11301996830494946252noreply@blogger.com