tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post3148971933634776022..comments2024-03-18T17:36:55.778-04:00Comments on Mondesi's House: Pittsburgh's 10 Biggest Rivals...Who is #1?mondesishousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16196483886553780303noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-10466317335208838112010-08-16T16:57:48.266-04:002010-08-16T16:57:48.266-04:00This is old news now, but how a person compiling t...This is old news now, but how a person compiling this list doesn't immediately put Baltimore and Philly at the top and then divide up the rest is confusing.<br /><br />The Baltimore/Philly rivalries run deep, bone deep. The Capitals and Red Wings rivalries exist only in hockey and only for a game or two a season. It's not even that big of a deal.<br /><br />Especially Detroit. We've played them twice, they beat us, we beat them. Ho hum.Borskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03941327073575814893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-52450192928720231112010-08-15T21:35:46.029-04:002010-08-15T21:35:46.029-04:00I have no idea why the bengals are on this list......I have no idea why the bengals are on this list...i have never considered them a rival just a team when i look at the schedule, i just assume 2 victorys...JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13068883776167135099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-31892659752977413882010-08-15T21:35:45.362-04:002010-08-15T21:35:45.362-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.JDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13068883776167135099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-72951433608306201172010-08-13T23:58:55.375-04:002010-08-13T23:58:55.375-04:00Wow! I knew Adam had to be involved with this many...Wow! I knew Adam had to be involved with this many comments.<br /><br />I wasn't sure whether to laugh, or cry, when I saw the Brewers on this list. Seriously. The Fucking Brewers!<br /><br />Just goes to show you how far the Succos have fallen. I agree with those who feel the Phillies would have been on this list quite a few years ago. Hell, I would have added "The Big Red Machine" as well. That is where my hatred of Pete Rose was cultivated.<br /><br />IMO the Capitals are not #1. I do have a deep seated hatred for this franchise but this is from Dale Hunter, Dino Cicerelli, Rod Langway, Steve Konowalchuk, their completely lame fan base and douchebag owner. Not AO, although he is gaining ground quickly. I still think I hate Semin more.<br /><br />A few years ago I would have added the Rangers. Remember Adam Graves breaking Mario's wrist in 92? I still hate those Blue shirts even though they are laughable.<br /><br />My loathing for the Ravens, Flyers and Bengals is palpable. I can literally taste it! Living in Philly I hear way too much from the cretinous fan base, but I still hate the Ravens the most. They have the same foul stench as the Browns, only three times worse.<br /><br />I would offer the Jaguars and Titans for your consideration.<br /><br />I agree with those who feel the Patriots should be on the list but the Titans, when you consider their Oilers lineage, have been a Steeler rival for decades.<br /><br />The Mike Renfro non-touchdown, Donnie Shell breaking Earl Campbell's ribs, Dan Pastorini running for his life every year and Bum Phillips still trying to kick the door down. That was an easy team to hate.<br /><br />Add Steve McNair, LenDale White, Jevon Kearse and Jeff Fisher and it is easy to see why my disdain continues.<br /><br />It did not take long, but I have a strong dislike for the Jaguars. Coughlin, Brunell, Taylor, Garrard and Del Rio - I remember when my God son told me he was a Jaguars fan. He dropped a few points in my book and that day and has never gained those points back.<br /><br />10. Jaguars<br />9. Patriots<br />8. WVU <br />7. Villanova<br />6. Titans/Oilers<br />5. Browns<br />4. Capitals<br />3. Bengals<br />2. Flyers<br />1. Ravensokel dokelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13034193951055275779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-75680545811079038602010-08-13T17:55:29.250-04:002010-08-13T17:55:29.250-04:00Using YOUR list, this is the order most of us woul...Using YOUR list, this is the order most of us would prefer:<br /><br />10) Milwaukee Brewers<br /><br />Why? They are hated, but we are the Pirates. End of Story.<br /><br />09) Penn State Football<br /><br />Why? We haven’t played in ten years. Nobody gives a shit.<br /><br />08) Detroit Red Wings<br /><br />Why? We have played TWO meaningful series with them EVER. And they have been in the last three years. Not much of a “rivalry” in my eyes.<br /><br />07) UCONN Basketball<br /><br />Why? We have been handed a few miserable defeats by these guys. For all college BBall fans, this deserves to be on the list.<br /><br />06) Cincinatti Bengals<br /><br />Why? Just because they are the Bungles and everytime I see a video or picture from hushmanhashbrown cleaning his shoes with our beloved Terrible Towel, I want to punch a tiger.<br /><br />05) Washington Capitals<br /><br />Why? Because it’s not so much the team as it is Ovechkin. If he played for the Tamba Bay Lighting I would hate him too.<br /><br />04) WVU Sports<br /><br />Why? In my eyes it is one of the best football rivalries in all of college football. It is the epitome of Western Pennsylvania football, only these guys play it for free. Hatred is the only fuel the Panthers need.<br /><br />03) Cleveland Browns<br /><br />Why? Because they are Cleveland. Plain and simple. As a matter of fact, we yinzers seem to hate any team with orange (see Flyers). The only reason this isn’t higher is the fact that it is so one-sided. Cleveland Sucks. Period.<br /><br />02) Philadelphia Flyers<br /><br />Why? Because we can all remember that OT goal by Primeau at the Igloo at 3:00am or so. Broke Pens fans hearts everywhere. The Penguins took 6 years to get over that heart breaking loss. <br /><br />01) Baltimore Ravens<br /><br />Why? There is nothing I can say that we as Pittsburgh’ers don’t already know. They WERE the Browns. They have beat us, we have beat them. Regardless of who’s playing QB, or what our record/their record is, EVERYONE knows it’s going to be a smash-mouth, injury prone, “call your grandma, the kitchen is burning down” game. <br /><br />End of Story. If you agree, go ahead and click that little green thumbs up botton on the side of my post. Go Steelers!Pittsburgh'er in AZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015698526452858037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-60238157267963337502010-08-13T17:27:39.677-04:002010-08-13T17:27:39.677-04:00My point is that you can't turn an argument ab...My point is that you can't turn an argument about passion into a mathematical equation involving fractions, percentages, etc.JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18332484284552226579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-60484220333187088982010-08-13T17:23:52.606-04:002010-08-13T17:23:52.606-04:00Adam,
First, I never said nor do I believe the sp...Adam,<br /><br />First, I never said nor do I believe the split to be anywhere near 75-25.<br /><br />As far as your argument goes, I do dispute your reasoning to an extent. I think most Pitt fans feel more hatred toward PSU than Steelers or Pens fans feel toward all but a few teams: Patriots, Ravens, probably Browns, maybe Cowboys; Flyers, maybe Caps. Any other opponents are more or less simply opponents: teams we hate for that game, but not too much beyond that. <br /><br />Don't you think there's room for Pitt-PSU in the Top 10? Do you really think Steelers fans have a hatred for Indy? Why???JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18332484284552226579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-41647907705579458992010-08-13T16:15:51.509-04:002010-08-13T16:15:51.509-04:00@ JW
So let me get this straight. Let's say,...@ JW<br /><br />So let me get this straight. Let's say, for the sake of discussion, it's 75-25 Pitt in terms of breakdown (that completely throws out West Virginia).<br /><br />That's still only 75% of people in the city that'd consider Penn State a rival, while I bet it'd be darned near 100% of people who hate New England or Indianapolis, or another pro team that has wronged the Steelers, Pirates, or Penguins.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523236755993371842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-40711297513941901172010-08-13T16:05:26.287-04:002010-08-13T16:05:26.287-04:00Adam...you stop it. You stop be sensical RIGHT no...Adam...you stop it. You stop be sensical RIGHT now. I don't like agreeing with you on anyhting but found myself just doing that.The Abiding Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00197491115436960376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-53404815177180243482010-08-13T16:04:47.599-04:002010-08-13T16:04:47.599-04:00As an apparent minority, i.e. a Pitt fan, does our...As an apparent minority, i.e. a Pitt fan, does our extreme hatred for Penn St. make up for what we seem to lack in numbers?<br /><br />I'm joking of course, as I largely have a great ambivalence toward State College, other than the fact that my wife is an alum. No worries though, she's almost as big a Pitt hoops fan as me.<br /><br />This entire argument (PSU as a Pittsburgh rival) reeks of incredible insecurity. I don't care how many alums/fans live in Western Pa. (and I agree there are a ton). Until they are renamed the Pennsylvania State University Within Proximity of Pittsburgh (PSUWPP) I think you can relax and allow Pitt a moment of perspective.JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18332484284552226579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-25651859283366480182010-08-13T15:49:46.226-04:002010-08-13T15:49:46.226-04:00If only someone we knew ran a website with a large...If only someone we knew ran a website with a large amount of Pittsburgh followers who during their weekly 'Hot Button' article could run a poll to see who is hated the most, New England, Dallas or Penn State, maybe even throw in Detroit. O well, one can dream. <br /><br />By the way very good list overall. Maybe I'm just a little too young to hate the Caps as much as some.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-46043296370073915612010-08-13T15:43:49.676-04:002010-08-13T15:43:49.676-04:00Plax,
I totally agree with you. I was just puttin...Plax,<br /><br />I totally agree with you. I was just putting it out there that it really is impossible to gauge something like fans of a team. All we really know for sure is that both teams have a big following in the area.<br /><br />Adam,<br /><br />I guess we have found some common ground. The New York and Philly fans at PSU are impossible to deal with. I honestly feel bad for you having to not only spend time with these people, but actually work with them. The New York fans are worse than the Philly fans. Not only are most of them from New Jersey, but they really know nothing about the sports they claim to be interested in. There are also a ton of people who like the Giants, but like the Jets when they're good, and like the Yankees when they win the World Series, and like they Knicks with lebron, and Rangers on Tuesday, and the Islanders on the second Thursday of each month.Scott Zigarovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876736489837999269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-56904894282586216652010-08-13T15:41:27.099-04:002010-08-13T15:41:27.099-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scott Zigarovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876736489837999269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-29066115959353226222010-08-13T15:37:27.253-04:002010-08-13T15:37:27.253-04:00And folks, this seriously isn't a Penn State v...And folks, this seriously isn't a Penn State vs. Pitt issue.<br /><br />It's just numbers. There is a significant Penn State population in Pittsburgh and that population generally supports the other Pittsburgh teams. To suggest that because Pitt and Penn State being rivals makes Penn State a rival of the CITY is silly, because the city is made up of a large amount of Penn Stater's. Apparantly Don and a lot of people here put geographics ahead of demographics, but the fact remains, if you took a city-wide poll of whether people hated New England, Dallas, or Penn State the most, Penn State would be a distant, distant third, which is why this list is crock used to stir up the 40+ comments we've already generated.<br /><br />Bravo Don.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523236755993371842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-38437481066463746422010-08-13T15:31:49.081-04:002010-08-13T15:31:49.081-04:00@ Burress, Dallas Mike
There's a difference b...@ Burress, Dallas Mike<br /><br />There's a difference between a kool-aid drinker and someone who just doesn't like their school being misrepresented, as Don and many commenters on here have a tendency to do. There's not really much difference between State College and the South Hills community of Pittsburgh other than the gigantic university stuck in the middle. I'm not one to suggest it's this magical cloud kingdom where everyone's whistling a happy tune. It's a nice, safe town, but that's about it, so don't paint me as some person who think life only exists within the Valley.<br /><br />@ Scott<br /><br />I work at a student publication in State College (you can figure out which one I'm talking about) and the sports staff is made up almost completely of East Coast sports fans and they drive me nuts. You think I take myself seriously, you need to spend 10 minutes in a meeting there. I'd leave in a heartbeat if it was a good career move.<br /><br />As for everyone else who thinks it's insane that Penn State could have more alumni than Pitt in Allegheny County, look, Pitt has 200,000 alumni worldwide. Penn State is nearly double that at over 450,000 and the home to the densest population of those is Allegheny County. Even if all of Pitt's alumni still lived here, Penn State wouldn't be too far behind.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523236755993371842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-62460871235823863542010-08-13T15:31:37.588-04:002010-08-13T15:31:37.588-04:00Scott,
I don't understand, I was saying that ...Scott,<br /><br />I don't understand, I was saying that it's not unreasonable to believe there could be more PSU fans based on those facts.......<br /><br />EO,<br /><br />If you have the "Pens Again" VHS, there is a summary of our series vs. the Caps which includes Ciccarelli scoring a Hat Trick and the announcer dubbing it "The Dino Ciccarelli SHow". That always made me so angry.BurressWithButterflywingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466557816631165674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-87998947271281796882010-08-13T15:21:07.391-04:002010-08-13T15:21:07.391-04:00The Penguins/ Capitals rivalry may have been even ...The Penguins/ Capitals rivalry may have been even BETTER in the 90s than it is today, and was at least in the sheer volume of playoff matchups. The Jagr trade did nothing to make Pens fans hate the Caps, it just made Jags look like a dick. Like a previous commenter said, Ciccarelli, Juneau, and even more so Dale Hunter, Don Beaupre, and Peter Bondra were big time public enemies back in the day. <br /><br />That being said, Flyers are still much worse. I'd root for the house in a game of Blackjack with my house on the line before I'd root for the orange and black.Papa Eohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12769247898632168511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-51524104394450873702010-08-13T15:17:18.540-04:002010-08-13T15:17:18.540-04:00Plax,
There really are a lot of Pitt and PSU fans...Plax,<br /><br />There really are a lot of Pitt and PSU fans in the area. I am also sure that there are a lot of people who like both schools and hate both schools.Scott Zigarovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876736489837999269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-91217764571396558242010-08-13T15:16:39.920-04:002010-08-13T15:16:39.920-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Scott Zigarovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876736489837999269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-35151456546290136612010-08-13T15:13:00.589-04:002010-08-13T15:13:00.589-04:00Dallas,
I have heard that about A&M fans. Are...Dallas,<br /><br />I have heard that about A&M fans. Are they that way with school pride or just football obsessed like the rest of the Lone Star State?<br /><br />Also, I don't think it is impossible for their to be more PSU grads/fans in the PGH area than Pitt fans. I base this on the fact that PSU has a larger student body, thus more graduates per class. Not to mention locality of branch campuses.BurressWithButterflywingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466557816631165674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-14254480312902925382010-08-13T15:04:47.920-04:002010-08-13T15:04:47.920-04:00Dallas,
My four years at PSU gave me a similar op...Dallas,<br /><br />My four years at PSU gave me a similar opinion. I have a theory as to why this is the case though. Most students at PSU are either Philly fans, New York fans, or fair weather fans. The overall terribleness of these fan bases rub off on impressionable 18 year olds and suddenly we are left with PSU fan looking a lot like Philly fan; and we all hate Philly fan. <br /><br />I don't know if anybody can say how many Pitt vs. PSU fans there are in Pittsburgh. There are a lot of each.Scott Zigarovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876736489837999269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-2733829759495146912010-08-13T14:53:43.277-04:002010-08-13T14:53:43.277-04:00I think Adam is pushing hard to crack this top 10 ...I think Adam is pushing hard to crack this top 10 list himself.JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18332484284552226579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-683202481616788552010-08-13T14:43:46.846-04:002010-08-13T14:43:46.846-04:00Burress,
Pretty good characterization of the cult...Burress,<br /><br />Pretty good characterization of the cult mentality at PSU. I received my undergraduate degrees from PSU, and it was stunning to witness the nostalgic musings and the Kool-Aid being consumed by students and alumni. Then again, it sometimes reminds me of the loyal Pirate fans. Maybe I'm the cynical one with the abnormal perspective, but I am able to separate an education from my childhood following of Pitt athletics. State College was a great place to spend 4 years, but it is not more compelling than other small college towns all over the U.S. But if you think PSU fans are bad, I need to introduce you to some Texas A&M fans. The definition of cult is an Aggie fan.<br /><br />AJ,<br /><br />Great point about the Phillies as a former Pirate rival. The hatred of Pete Rose was my earliest memory of baseball. I can also remember the days when the Mets would have been #1 on that list. How about those Muck the Fets shirts that were worn to the stadium? Safe to say those days are long gone.Dallas Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11729900655652634679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-53477385904182153382010-08-13T14:11:53.450-04:002010-08-13T14:11:53.450-04:00Joe Juneau reference....AWESOME!!!!!Joe Juneau reference....AWESOME!!!!!The Abiding Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00197491115436960376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29893900.post-41453543404879086492010-08-13T14:09:56.762-04:002010-08-13T14:09:56.762-04:00So Adam since you consider PSU a "Pittsburgh ...So Adam since you consider PSU a "Pittsburgh Team" then couldn't technically PITT be on this very list? So Pitt Football is a rival of Pittsburgh City in your mind?Regehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08871140405061250791noreply@blogger.com